Comments on: The Island of Dr. Moreau via the Campus of Dr Jentsch and the UCLA “Pro-Test” Campaign to Legitimate Scientific Terrorism http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/ declaring war on abusers and oppressors! Fri, 19 Mar 2010 21:41:04 -0400 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.2 hourly 1 By: Judith http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3647 Judith Thu, 29 Oct 2009 08:35:36 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3647 Prison is much too easy! Experiment on these monsters, just like they have on these poor innocent and voiceless sentient beings..I would be more than happy to help. Just the very thought of making these monsters feel the terror and pain that these beings feel on a daily basis, brings a smile to my face and a certain amount of peace to my soul...An eye for an eye, such a simple saying but with so much passion and meaning...And how could anyone refer to myself as violent, as a few people on NIO do, when they see the most horrific cruelty known to man against the animals that live in slavery all of their lives.....Well, I've had my say. If anyone finds an island thats not being used, I'm your gal! Prison is much too easy! Experiment on these monsters, just like they have on these poor innocent and voiceless sentient beings..I would be more than happy to help. Just the very thought of making these monsters feel the terror and pain that these beings feel on a daily basis, brings a smile to my face and a certain amount of peace to my soul…An eye for an eye, such a simple saying but with so much passion and meaning…And how could anyone refer to myself as violent, as a few people on NIO do, when they see the most horrific cruelty known to man against the animals that live in slavery all of their lives…..Well, I’ve had my say. If anyone finds an island thats not being used, I’m your gal!

]]> By: person http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3616 person Wed, 28 Oct 2009 17:46:47 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3616 common sense ? lA BONTE ET LA TENDRESSE SONT DES VALEURS TROP IGNOREES ET POURTANT NECESSAIRES ! EVOLUTION common sense ?
lA BONTE ET LA TENDRESSE SONT DES VALEURS
TROP IGNOREES ET POURTANT NECESSAIRES !
EVOLUTION

]]> By: Babble http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3612 Babble Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:29:22 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3612 Jail, not death. Send them to jail. Jail, not death. Send them to jail.

]]> By: MARIANTHI ZAMBETA http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3609 MARIANTHI ZAMBETA Wed, 28 Oct 2009 05:25:50 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3609 my god what are you fucking doing are you crazy or what you bastards i wish you dead with all my heart DEAD DEAD because you are torturing these poor animals you bastards my god what are you fucking doing are you crazy or what you bastards i wish you dead with all my heart DEAD DEAD because you are torturing these poor animals you bastards

]]> By: Julie Farrell http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3591 Julie Farrell Tue, 27 Oct 2009 04:48:19 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3591 This totally disgusting, inhumane and must be stopped!!! What is wrong with people like this!!! This totally disgusting, inhumane and must be stopped!!! What is wrong with people like this!!!

]]> By: babble http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3586 babble Mon, 26 Oct 2009 20:06:17 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3586 "Humane treatment" is the canard used to sell the notion of research as ethically neutral (or, indeed ethically GOOD, since it benefits humans). It has nothing at all to do with however animals in research are treated. Some of them may be relatively well-cared for vs. others. It's irrelevant. It's a distraction used to perpetuate things as they are. We're equally opposed to factory farming as we are happy meat. We're equally opposed to animal testing on mice that (we claim) are happy little balls of fur as on animals that are tortured for no reason at all. Animals *are not* an exploitable resource. “Humane treatment” is the canard used to sell the notion of research as ethically neutral (or, indeed ethically GOOD, since it benefits humans). It has nothing at all to do with however animals in research are treated. Some of them may be relatively well-cared for vs. others. It’s irrelevant. It’s a distraction used to perpetuate things as they are.

We’re equally opposed to factory farming as we are happy meat. We’re equally opposed to animal testing on mice that (we claim) are happy little balls of fur as on animals that are tortured for no reason at all.

Animals *are not* an exploitable resource.

]]> By: Negotiation Is Over http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3585 Negotiation Is Over Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:35:32 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3585 Rosset, Rather than speak about half-truths, let's discuss "humane torture". The concept of "humane treatment" of a victim that is imprisoned, tortured, mutilated, murdered -- or specifically bred as a mutant resource -- is so fantastic that it defies logic. You would never offer your own children or companion animal as a victim. Yet you have the audacity to defend the theft of another being's life, the mutilation of its body, and an existence imprisoned in misery. This is not humane. This is not science. This will never be the foundation upon which progress rests. Evolve! You say the true images "may or may not be problematic". However, these images have not been altered. AND THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC as is your endorsement of "Frankenscience." You support "research" that is wholly disengaged from morality, and perpetuated by human deviance and greed. Rosset,

Rather than speak about half-truths, let’s discuss “humane torture”.

The concept of “humane treatment” of a victim that is imprisoned, tortured, mutilated, murdered — or specifically bred as a mutant resource — is so fantastic that it defies logic. You would never offer your own children or companion animal as a victim. Yet you have the audacity to defend the theft of another being’s life, the mutilation of its body, and an existence imprisoned in misery. This is not humane. This is not science. This will never be the foundation upon which progress rests. Evolve!

You say the true images “may or may not be problematic”. However, these images have not been altered. AND THEY ARE PROBLEMATIC as is your endorsement of “Frankenscience.”

You support “research” that is wholly disengaged from morality, and perpetuated by human deviance and greed.

]]> By: Rosset http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3584 Rosset Mon, 26 Oct 2009 19:05:24 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3584 Misrepresenting science to gain your objectives will only backfire once people know that you have done so. Doing this type of overreaching article with half truths will only undermine the object of humane treatment. Especially problematic is doctoring photos and presenting fabrications as real when in reality the true images may or may not be problematic. The mouse ear actually has resulted in new limbs for animals and new devices for humans that grows skin well over structures. You deny this kind of humanity by showing one picture. Spreading the myth of top heavy chickens makes us liars in the eyes of the public. You do a disservice to humane treatment by putting out fringe misinformation. Misrepresenting science to gain your objectives will only backfire once people know that you have done so. Doing this type of overreaching article with half truths will only undermine the object of humane treatment. Especially problematic is doctoring photos and presenting fabrications as real when in reality the true images may or may not be problematic. The mouse ear actually has resulted in new limbs for animals and new devices for humans that grows skin well over structures. You deny this kind of humanity by showing one picture. Spreading the myth of top heavy chickens makes us liars in the eyes of the public. You do a disservice to humane treatment by putting out fringe misinformation.

]]> By: Maricarmen http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3579 Maricarmen Mon, 26 Oct 2009 16:13:30 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3579 No más crueldad ni experimentos, ni diversión con los animales.... cómo es tan difícil de entender ésto???... Hasta cuándo tendremos que ver tanta INJUSTICIA, con nuestros queridos hermanos los ANIMALITOS ???.. Basta es Basta!!!! Maricarmen. España No más crueldad ni experimentos, ni diversión con los animales…. cómo es tan difícil de entender ésto???… Hasta cuándo tendremos que ver tanta INJUSTICIA, con nuestros queridos hermanos los ANIMALITOS ???.. Basta es Basta!!!!
Maricarmen.
España

]]> By: Nici Wasserfall http://negotiationisover.com/2009/10/24/the-island-of-dr-moreau-via-the-campus-of-dr-jentsch-and-the-ucla-pro-test-to-legitimate-scientific-terrorism/comment-page-1/#comment-3578 Nici Wasserfall Mon, 26 Oct 2009 15:28:44 +0000 http://negotiationisover.com/?p=3242#comment-3578 Why are'nt vivisectors sentenced and jailed for animal abuse? How is it that when the abused animals in need of care are saved by organisations like ALF, these hero's are jailed for stepping in and doing the right thing! This means vivisectors can get away with ANYTHING, hiding behind the smokescreen called "scientific research"! HOW can someone ignore the shrieking and writhing of a little monkey, strapped into a chair with pipes running into it's brain, calmly jotting down notes, oblivious to the monkey's plight, absentmindedly reaching for the next victim...? It is common knowledge that alternative safer methods are available, so WHY is vivisection still allowed! It appears that vivisectors have been brainwashed by the system into becoming desensitised robots in human form, walking a deadly path strewn with animals bodies destroyed at their hands. They are a breed totally devoid of compassion or empathy, uncaring and cold. The day they are arrested, sentenced as bloodthirsty animal tormentors and booted into jail, will be the day I will have hope for the future of mankind. Why are’nt vivisectors sentenced and jailed for animal abuse? How is it that when the abused animals in need of care are saved by organisations like ALF, these hero’s are jailed for stepping in and doing the right thing! This means vivisectors can get away with ANYTHING, hiding behind the smokescreen called “scientific research”! HOW can someone ignore the shrieking and writhing of a little monkey, strapped into a chair with pipes running into it’s brain, calmly jotting down notes, oblivious to the monkey’s plight, absentmindedly reaching for the next victim…? It is common knowledge that alternative safer methods are available, so WHY is vivisection still allowed! It appears that vivisectors have been brainwashed by the system into becoming desensitised robots in human form, walking a deadly path strewn with animals bodies destroyed at their hands. They are a breed totally devoid of compassion or empathy, uncaring and cold. The day they are arrested, sentenced as bloodthirsty animal tormentors and booted into jail, will be the day I will have hope for the future of mankind.

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