Comments on: The CNN.com “Blogger Bunch” Discussion: Animal Liberation v. Vivisection

By: Steve

Steve — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:52:27 +0000

Well said. Actions against apertheid were criminals acts, just ask Nelson Mandela. Speciesism is as bad as Racism for it’s victims.

By: Judith

Judith — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:12:38 +0000

Bill, no different is our Revolution, than those before us. Brush up on your history…

By: Bill

Bill — Tue, 15 Dec 2009 06:43:28 +0000

Those of you who condone acts of violence against those involved in animal research as a method for progressing your cause have lost your minds…
Such ways of getting things done are criminal and deserve no respect from the public. I suspect Peter Young finds this difficult to accept but at least the penal system is available for criminals like him to sit and think about their actions.
Take your protest to the media and apply political pressure the way everyone one else does.
Publicly criticize unlawful acts of other animal rights activists and you will find your credibility improve with the general public.
Just remember your opinion is your own and this debate seems to come down to ‘what constitutes animal cruelty?’… a subjective and deeply culturally affected question, for eg. Masai people cut open veins in the necks of cattle(not killing them) to drain blood for their own consumption, yet those cattle are protected and treated as they’re own kin. A masai may think caging a bird is more cruel! So good luck to you changing the law… I hope you’ve got determination, perseverance and respect for other opinions.

By: Judith

Judith — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 22:53:08 +0000

Thats just it! He has much to hide…..

By: Kathy

Kathy — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 02:21:59 +0000

I’m watching the CNN debate right now and listening to Tom Holder lie about the treatment of animals in labs. Has anyone suggested to him that he actually stream live video from his lab so we can all see what he’s really doing? Just a thought–if he treats his animals so well, what does he have to hide?

By: person

person — Fri, 13 Nov 2009 00:18:51 +0000

love is the answer to all the dark side of human greedhuman need limits animals need protection
EVOLUTION

By: Judith

Judith — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 22:30:44 +0000

When I heard Peter talking about Rats being blow torched I really lost it, but it brought back memories of how in the early 1970’s, how very little vets felt about working on our two companion Rats. Our one Rats named Ernie developed cancer on one foot. We took him in and the Dr. started tearing the infected piece off of his foot and he started screaming. I told the Dr. to stop and give him something for pain, this prick turned around and said to me, he’s just a rat. My husband took over after that and Ernie was given something to numb his foot.. When the tests came back that said his cancer was too far along, the vet said he should be put to sleep and that since we were so upset that we should leave and he would do what needed to be done, my husband grabbed Ernie and we took him home and when the time came we took him to another vet who put him to sleep and we brought him home and buried him. We knew that the other vet was going to send Ernie to a vivisector. Thats what they do many times. I’m sorry to go on and on but nothing has changed, these vivisectors are void of all feelings and compassion. They are murderers and many seem to enjoy the power they have over the innocent, voiceless and helpless and millions of people turn a blind eye to all of this. Until something happens thats a ground shaker, nothing will be done, we need the public in a really, big, big way…

By: Judith

Judith — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:39:30 +0000

We can’t ask questions or hold up a sign anymore, they arrest us…Just like they did at UCLA…

By: Gypsy

Gypsy — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 20:14:24 +0000

don’t want to discuss this with mainstream audience?? we have a right to ask questions, we are sick of this abuse, I don’t care about any results, the ends just don’t ever justify the means.
maybe they are afraid of finding out how much we actually know about this torture called vivisection.

By: Judith

Judith — Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:44:52 +0000

From my husband the pilot:
This is the 21st century, computers and computer programmers should be able to make actual animal testing “unnecessary”…Of course, I suppose if the cost of moving your operation into the 21st century is your main obstacle, then you may be a little short sighted. The future of our world is headed toward more computerization, not continuing the barbaric practices of the past. The only reason something is done the old way is because people are generally afraid of progress. There is also the seldom aired fact that many people think they need to have power over innocent and voiceless beings. They think it justifies their existence. Whatever happened to the Golden Rule: do unto others as you would have them do unto you? Maybe our college education system should require every student to study the “Planet of the Apes” series of movies and not the other Golden Rule: he who has the gold rules…..